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00:02 Hey, Resetters. On this episode of The Resetter podcast, I am bringing you Catherine Armston. Now, a little background on Catherine. She is an algae expert. And this is really intriguing to me because I don't know about you all, but I am finding that in my fasting lifestyle, one of the biggest challenges that I have is getting enough vegetables in.  
00:26 And so that allowed me to start to look at other resources to get the nutrients we would get from vegetables in other products, and I discovered algae. And once I discovered the nutrient-dense abilities of algae, I discovered Catherine. And what you're about to hear in this discussion is how we could use algae not just to power up our mitochondria, but we can also use it to help detox ourselves, and it's all natural.  
00:55 And the way that Catherine has made some incredible algae products makes it very clean, makes it very accessible to all of us, and it can become this tool that we use throughout the day to not only fuel ourselves with the proper nutrients, but to give us energy and to detox our body. And I can tell you that I have been using her products for some time. And the biggest difference that I see is in my skin.  
01:24 My skin feels more moist. It feels like the aging process has slowed a bit. You should really go see the video of Catherine that we post on the Resetter podcast YouTube channel because Catherine is a beautiful example of finding the fountain of youth through algae. So in this episode, you're going to learn why algae is so profound for our cells and why it is the missing ingredient.  
01:52 You're also going to learn the power of something like Corella to help detox your cells and all the different applications you can use Corella to detox. This is a beautiful conversation of science and application and what a tool like algae can do for you and your fasting lifestyle. So I'm really excited to bring you, Catherine. This was a fun discussion for me. I absolutely adore her products.  
02:16 If you want to use her products or learn more about them, we'll leave the links below, but you can go to energybits.com and use my last name to get 20% off. It's an incredible product, incredible woman, incredible discussion, and I'm so excited to share it with you. Enjoy. Hey, Dr. Mindy here, and welcome to season four of the Resetter podcast. Please know that this podcast is all about empowering you to believe in yourself again.  
02:48 If you have a passion for learning, if you're looking to be in control of your health and take your power back, this is the podcast for you. Enjoy. Hey Recenters, I know that stress affects us all, but I want to give a special shout out to my menopausal women out there. I know that stress during menopause can feel like a serious uphill battle.  
03:18 It causes us to lose sleep, it can tank our energy, and it can definitely make us feel very irritable. And what we know from science is that high stress is linked to serious health conditions like high blood pressure, obesity, anxiety, and depression. And the statistics on stress? Not so great.  
03:40 When we look at the statistics since 2020, two out of three people have reported feeling extreme stress, and over 80% say that stress is affecting their physical and mental well-being. Now, we do have some stress go-to techniques like exercise, fasting, and healthy habits. Those are very, very crucial. But with our fast-paced life, we definitely need to bring in all the resources we can find to meet the demands of this overly stressed out world.  
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05:13 And let's thrive through menopause together. Here's the hack that I want you to know. If you are starting to fast longer than 24 hours, the absolute best food that you could reach for are Paleo Valley's beef sticks. So if you are one of those people that you worry about boomeranging back into your old eating habits after you've been fasting, you've gotta try the beef sticks because not only is it clean meat, not only does it have the collagen that you can get in bone broth, but it's fermented.  
05:51 The people at Paleo Valley are geniuses and they've fermented these beef sticks, so you're getting a probiotic rich food source. It's unreal. It literally encompasses all four of the steps and it's so quick and easy to grab. And if I didn't say that I love the taste of these, I wanna make sure that you know that this isn't just a food you're gonna break your fast with and it's gonna accelerate your health, but that it actually tastes amazing.  
06:20 So Paleo Valley, we love these people and they wanna give you 15% off when you order your beef sticks. So all you gotta do is go to paleovalley.com forward slash resetter podcast and use the code resetter podcast and they'll give you 15% off. And as always, I wanna know what your favorite flavor is. I wanna know how it works for you. And every single piece of information I put out there for you, I really want it to move your health forward.  
06:50 And I would be remiss to not tell you that Paleo Valley's beef sticks is a key part of my fasting lifestyle. So so grateful for them and excited to share it with you. Enjoy. Catherine, let me just start off by saying welcome to the resetter podcast. Thank you so much. I can't believe I'm finally sitting here with you. I'm so excited. Okay, here is my burning question. And this, I'm just gonna start off with like the deepest question I have around your passion around algae because we've known each other for several years.  
07:23 I've seen energy beds. They show up everywhere. And my brain has been curious. And what I keep asking myself is, why do we need to think about algae? Yeah. Like, there's so many things to think about. Why is algae the hero of our health right now? Well, there's two reasons. At this moment in time, our food supply is so damaged, our soil is so damaged. It doesn't matter what you eat, you are not getting the nourishment that you need or that your grandparents had 50 years ago.  
07:52 The overcropping of soils, the glyphosate driftage, the overprocessing of food, it's a disaster. So number one, our bodies are not getting our bodies and brain are not getting what we need to just even survive, let alone thrive. Number two, the amount of toxins in our world is just off the charts. The average adult has 700 toxins in their body, and our immune systems weren't built to support that.  
08:18 So that's also causing health issues that manifest as weight gain, brain fog, digestive issues, cancer, heart disease, all the chronic diseases. So those two issues are causing 95% of our health concerns, and algae addresses both of them. Spirulina, which is a blue-green algae, is the most nutrient-dense food in the world. Now you have to be careful where you buy yours 'cause if you use high heat, like most people do, you lose a lot of the nutrients, but we don't.  
08:50 So first of all, United Nations has endorsed spirulina for 49 years as the answer to world hunger because it has the, yep, I can give you the link. Yeah, like my brain goes with that. It's like, why haven't we earned that? Well, because, you know, it's just not, it's just not well known. Nobody knows what, first of all, people don't even know what algae is, and I'll get to that in a minute. But it's endorsed by the United Nations because there's three times the amount of protein at stake, there is nothing in the world with more protein than algae, number one, and it's a sustainable, eco-friendly crop.  
09:22 So number two, NASA endorses algae as the most nutrient-dense food. And we have a quote from NASA that says, "One gram of algae has the same nutrition as 1,000 grams of fruits and vegetables, one for 1,000." And here's the most important thing. They come as little tiny tablets. So each one of these tablets has the same nutrition as an entire plate of vegetables, but without any carbs, without any sugar, without any toxins, without any work. You could throw one of these into your mouth. I just had a plate of vegetables.  
09:53 Now, most people do swallow them because this really is a rough. So now you're getting all the nourishment, and we're going to talk about the mitochondria later on, the nourishment that you need that your body in the food supply is not giving you. So that's number one. Wait, can I ask you one thing on that? So one of the challenges we're seeing with our fasters is that when you start to build a fasting lifestyle and you have this compressed eating window, it's how do you get your vegetables in?  
10:18 And when you're looking like at women in general, breaking down hormones happens in the gut, and I'm a huge fan of women, especially over 40, get eating more vegetables to feed the strobe alone and be able to maximize their gut health. But then you match that with a fasting lifestyle. Right. And it's like, okay, you better open up that salad and start eating it for the next four hours. Right, I know. So could we look at this as food and put it in our fasting window even? Absolutely. This replaces the need for vegetables. Absolutely.  
10:47 That's crazy. And Chloro does have fiber and spirulina is technically a bacteria. So it does feed the gut biome, but the spirulina will satisfy your hunger. You could take, if you took 15 or 20, it's like a meal replacement. For 15 or 20 calories, you're getting all the protein you need, all the vegetables, all the minerals, all the electrolytes, everything, but without any carbs and without any work. It's effortless nutrition. I call it nah, your nutrition insurance. In fact, frankly, it's health insurance because it's effortless.  
11:18 Yes. It's true health insurance. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. We want to get into the wellness space, corporate wellness space 'cause it's like, hey, employers, this gives your people the energy mentally and physically to get their work done. And when we'll talk about chlorella, it builds your immune system and stops you from being sick. So no sick days. So crazy. And because it's ketogenic, it's paleo. It's even for carnivores.  
11:45 It's great for carnivores because I forgot to mention zero lectins or oxalates, which is a big issue for people. So SIBO too? Yes, SIBO. It plays with everybody. Yeah. I love that. Yeah, and algae is like everybody's best friend. And it will never let you down. It's everybody's best friend that nobody knows about. It's like that friend waiting. I know. I know. Yeah. So that's why I love it. I'm so passionate. And you know I've been doing this for 13 years. I'll tell you later the story how I got into it because my sister had breast cancer, and that's what got me into this, and she's fine now.  
12:17 But this has been used in Asia for 75 years. It is a multi-billion dollar agricultural crop there. It's almost as big as the beef industry is here. But nobody knows about it here because it's not grown here. In Asia, you can't ride your bicycle to work or to school without going by an algae farm because it is farmed. Here we have corn and wheat and all those crappy carb or doughnuts. And like where would you ever know about algae?  
12:47 You don't grow up with it. Right. And then there's 100,000 studies. It's a big number. 100,000 scientific studies. Many or most of them are in PubMed documenting all the benefits we're going to talk about today about algae. Yeah But scientists like to talk to other scientists. So nobody is explaining the science of algae. That seems to be my background, although in fact, ironically, I have no science background. I call myself a citizen scientist. I love that. I want to stop for a second because this podcast is about empowering people.  
13:19 So in case you don't know what PubMed is, PubMed is where you go to find the research on everything. It is scientific papers. Yeah, it is the legitimate site where you can go and find studies. But once you get there, you're in a rabbit hole that just keeps you going. But everybody can go there, which is why I love the citizen scientists. Let's all be citizen scientists. And I'm just so motivated because I needed to find out why people, I know there's millions of scientists out there trying to figure out why people are getting sick, but I don't know.  
13:50 I'm just this driven individual. But I thought, I can figure this out. I know I can figure this out. That's how I feel. And I think I did. And the material is there, but you have to be willing to spend your weekends or when everyone else is at the movies, you're down there trying to what exactly is the electron transport chain? What is this thing? Yeah. Your eyes glaze over the first time you see it. And then after you've looked at it the thousandth time, you start to get it and you go, "Oh, that's why this happens." And you see patterns.  
14:20 You've seen patterns. So talk a little bit about, so that was So that's very nourishing, energizing, great for fasting. Intermittent fasting does not decrease your ketones, does not increase your glucose, one calorie. It is so nourishing. You could live on this forever. And in fact, before we switch to chlorophyll. Yeah, before, okay. I just want to say one last thing. I found out that in Japan, if babies cannot digest mother's breast milk when they're born, they would die. They've tried everything.  
14:49 The only thing that keeps them alive is spirulina in water. Wow. And so I thought, well, that's really interesting. So I started looking at mother's breast milk amino acid profile, identical to spirulina. Same aminos, same proportions as well as What aminos, just because we've been talking about there's eight. I don't have my nutrition. There's 18 of the 20. That was a nine that your body can't make. So it's a complete protein. Wow. And it has this acid fatty acid called GLA gaming acid. The only other place that has more of that is mother's breast milk.  
15:19 So mother's breast milk is the perfect food. This is number two. Yeah, and so the reason I ask about the amino acids, we've been talking a ton about amino acids in my reset academy. And aminos are precursors to hormones and neurotransmitters. And so as women age, and we're going to talk about that and what happened, where this can fit into slowing the aging process down. Oh yeah But a big piece of that is that you're losing these key nutrients. So I love that.  
15:49 And then I want to ask one other thing with this. If it doesn't raise glucose, could we use it in like a three-day water fast to mitigate the symptoms that a lot of people have from? Well, that's a good question. You could. I think you could because, and we'll get to this in a minute. It also stimulates apoptosis and autophagy, which is critical. But that might not feel so good. Yeah, yeah, that's true. But that's why you want the chlorella to pull out all the dead cells as well. But definitely for intermittent fasting.  
16:17 But when you're talking about the aging piece and how this will slow or stop the aging process, I'll do a big reveal for your community. I mean, I'm almost, I'm getting close to 70. Wow. I was just going to say, are you going to tell us your age? I love when people just announce their age. Ladies, or anybody who's watching, I have been taking this for 13 years. 13 years. I'm on no medications. I sleep well, I poop well, I digest well. You know My skin has no wrinkles.  
16:48 There's no Botox. And so No Botox. No Botox. Wow. So that's impressive. Yeah, like everything moves, right? Okay. I know, my face too. So I'm enthusiastic because I want other people to have the same benefits. It is not necessary to decline when you're aging. Yeah. You're going to age, but let's, and I can tell you exactly why this is happening to you, or one of my beliefs of why it's happening to you, and how algae can stop that decline.  
17:19 And I am evidence of it. Yeah. And so my brain's always on fire and that's one of the first things to go. You're not amped up. Nothing. Nothing. I don't even drink coffee. I drink green tea. Amazing. So truly, this is amazing. So talk about Yeah, that's algae. So that's spirulina. That's spirulina. Talk about taking it in the morning, but you could take it before a workout because it gives you energy. And we're going to talk about cellular energy because I also want to clarify the energy you get is not like a stimulant. It is not caffeine. It is not sugar.  
17:48 It's not chemicals. It's cellular energy. Yeah And we'll talk about that. And so I tell people, cellular energy is like money. When you have more money, you can do more things and you have more choices. When you have more cellular energy, you can do more things. You have more choices. So you could take this like 20 tablets and go for a run and you would have the best run of your day. Or you could take it before you go to bed. You'll have the best sleep of your day.  
18:16 Because what it's doing is it's facilitating the production of the ATP to be directed to what it is you are doing at that moment. Yeah So it knows. So again, like, you know, I love looking at the chemistry of how things work in our cells. And I'm thinking, well, what if you add that in when there's the presence of ketones there? Because ketones are already like supercharging you. Exactly. So if you're in like a fat adapted fasting state and then you bring this in together, I mean, not that anybody needs to be more supercharged when they're fasting, yeah but that switch to go from a place of being a sugar burner to a fat burner, that switch can be really difficult.  
18:53 So sometimes if you go into more of a, if you're in that fast or you're struggling with that switch, it can really help to have like this. Totally. Totally. And also, and we'll get to Chlorella, but the energy that you're getting, it's not a burst because it's just from nutrition and it's just at the cellular level. Right. So the best way we describe it is you feel fresh. That's it. Alert. You feel fresh. You feel like you had a great night's sleep. You might not even notice it if you were just going on in your day, except you'll notice that you're not fatigued, you're not hungry, you don't have brain fog.  
19:24 I'd say that's a pretty good way to live life. Yeah. Do you feel like do people ever tell you like that sounds too good to be true? Oh, yeah. You know I was called names when I first started. You know They were heckling me. This is a miracle pill. But here's the irony. Algae was the first life on Earth four billion years ago. And I'll talk to if we have time, I'll talk to you about it. But it was a cyanobacteria. Spirulina is a cyanobacteria. And over time, that cyanobacteria evolved into mitochondria.  
19:55 Yeah, that's crazy. Isn't that crazy? Yeah, that's crazy. So wait, wait, wait. Our mitochondria came from. That's pretty damn good. That's why the nutrients that are in algae are so powerful for the mitochondria, because they're family. They literally came from the same place, and we're going to talk about the mitochondria of that second inner membrane left over from when it was by itself. Yeah And the stuff that's in here can get drugs can't even get into that mitochondria. Nothing gets in there except LT.  
20:25 As well as. Okay. So Chlorella is a spirulina's brother, and spirulina was the cyanobacteria, first life on Earth, and it is a bacteria, cyanobacteria. Chlorella is a plant, and it evolved about a billion years after spirulina. Now, the great thing about chlorella is that it's the highest concentration of chlorophyll in the world. Chlorophyll has the same chemical composition as your hemoglobin. So it's very powerful to build your blood, which builds your immune system, which builds your gut, which builds everything.  
20:55 Number two, chlorella has a hard cell wall. Spirulina has none. Chlorella has the hardest in the plant kingdom. And in fact, it has to be cracked at production, and we do it in a way that's much safer than anybody else. That hard cell wall attaches to toxins, lead, mercury, radiation, all the heavy metals, any kind of senescent cells as they're dying, lime, all the It's a binder. It's a binder. It chelates way better than activated charcoal, which can pull out all minerals and leave you dehydrated.  
21:25 This has 40 vitamins and minerals, so it's also populating your body with minerals. So two things, very, very cleansing because of the chlorophyll, which cleanses your colon and cleanses your liver. Highest glutathione in the world, which is very also detoxing, particularly for your liver. The heart cell wall pulls out toxins and it has K2, vitamin K2, which moves excess calcium out of your skin, out of your soft tissues, including your heart, your blood vessels, your brain, and into your bones.  
21:57 Almost everybody is deficit in vitamin K2. And this has your daily requirement of it. So if I wasn't doing spirulina and Chorella on a daily basis, all these amazing things you're talking about, the happening, like the getting into the mitochondria, do we have other foods that can even come close to that? No. They are the most concentrated foods in the world, number one. Number two, there are the glutus, three of the three antioxidants that stop the damage of mitochondria.  
22:25 And when your mitochondria, especially your mitochondria DNA, are damaged, they cannot send proper signaling to cells or other nucleus or other mitochondria. This is what leads to diseased cells, which leads to the symptoms that we're experiencing, whether it's a hormonal or immune or brain fog. So the key for everyone is to protect their mitochondria. Yeah. 'Cause I tell people, the mitochondria aren't your team.  
22:56 Like yeah I also tell everybody, I never eat alone. I'm eating with my mitochondria. 'Cause what I eat, they get. Right. And when you're eating carbs, they're being bombarded with free radicals. Processed carbs, sugar, processed foods results in more free radical damage because there's slippage, there's loss of electrons in that electron transport chain, which convert into free radicals. So your pork mitochondria, they have no defense except, well, they have some defense if you start getting into, first of all, you want to reduce those carbs, which is what keto diets do.  
23:31 Fasting does the same with algae. There's virtually no free radicals released when you're using algae. And the other option is to remove the free radicals. And I'm circling back to the original thought, which is the problem is the mitochondria have this inner membrane. And traditional antioxidants can't get in there. Yeah. Vitamin E, vitamin C, as I mentioned, drug. Nothing can get in there except there's four that can. Chlorophyll, which of course algae is the highest concentration of, glutathione, melatonin, and superoxidism.  
24:02 Now, the great thing is your body makes those three superoxidism, melatonin, and glutathione. And from the moment you're born until the age of 30. And then after 30, it starts to drop and starts to drop until you're like 40, which is, you know, a lot of your audience and 50, it's even worse. And 60 is zero. And those are the antioxidants that can get into that inner membrane to stop free radical damage. But after 30, you're screwed.  
24:33 Yep. Algae has the highest concentration of all three of them in the world, and you can't get them. Superoxidism doesn't exist in any other food. Glutathione, there's the minuscule amount in meat, but otherwise virtually non-existent. And even if you get a glutathione injection or drip or something, it has a very short half-life, which means it disappears in your body within about half an hour or an hour. So when you take it as a food and algae, you're constantly feeding in that glutathione so they can get in there to stop the free radical damage.  
25:05 Correct. And so while the spirulina is stopping that free radical damage, by the time you're 30 or 40 or 50, you've also accumulated more and more toxins. And that's where the chlorella comes in. So they're like a team. They're a team. They're your A team. This will protect. They will protect your LG team. It's the A team. And I'm Catherine Arnston, which is also an A. Oh my gosh, this is your A-Team. That's it. This is the A-Team. And honestly, they go to work for you every single day.  
25:36 They never let you down. They always work. It doesn't matter what age group. But if you're in their 40s and 50s, this is the answer because this gets rid of both of them have created virtually zero free radicals, but this one cleans up and removes the free radicals. And this one will pull out the toxins that have been accumulating over time. So they work very well. So generally people take this one in the morning 'cause it also gives you energy and satisfies your hunger. And then this one because your body goes through a detox repair cycle when you're sleeping.  
26:08 So this will really uplevel that process. So talk a little bit about one of the things that I've seen just in my world and with my patients and our online world has been that there is something pivotal that happens around 35. Yeah. Like for women specifically. And I actually brought this to Dr. Amen's attention. Yeah. He was on the podcast and I said, tell me what is hormonally happening to women as they transition into their late 30s, into their 40s, because I see such a huge change in mental and physical health.  
26:40 And you know what he said to me? He said, well, the biggest problem is that we weren't meant to live as long as we're living. Well, this is the thing, because when I read in the science that your body stops making these three critical antioxidants after the age of 30, I thought, well, that's crazy. Mother Nature is so clever to create us. Why at 30? So I dug into the science and I found out humans have been on the Earth for about 2 million years. And for almost 2 million years, we died at 30.  
27:10 So our biology thinks we're dying at 30. It just stops making them. We have only lived longer in the last 150 years. And our biology is I tell people our biology has not caught up with our destiny. We are now living to 80 to 90 and possibly longer, but we're not living well. So who wants to be 40 and 50 and 60 and be incapacitated? Yeah And the level of heart disease and cancer is not going down.  
27:41 In fact, it's escalating. I have some statistics that show 60% of adults, so over the age of 40, 60% have a chronic condition. And when you get to 65, it goes up to 85%. And 75% of deaths are from cancer and heart disease. That's crazy. And many of those are happening. Probably most if we look at the statistics are happening to women. Yeah. Well, and women get extra you know we get hit with extra stuff that men don't get osteoporosis, which also kicks in after the age of 40.  
28:15 Alzheimer's. Most 80% of Alzheimer's patients are women. And I think it has something to do with that estrogen change. Yeah I don't know enough science about that, but I'd like to talk a little bit about the brain because your brain. The highest concentration of mitochondria in your entire body. Wait, but the prefrontal cortex specifically. Exactly. Executive function. Yeah. Explain a little bit so that just so my audience, I mean, they hear me talk about prefrontal cortex a little bit. Well, and I'm not a brain expert, but you know your brain has 2 million mitochondria per cell.  
28:46 So these little things that are generating your energy, that cellular energy that you need for anything, the most of them are in your brain. The second highest, by the way, ladies, are women's eggs. Oh yeah, 600,000 mitochondria per cell in women's eggs. And the third highest is your heart, which is about 7,000. So basically, the places where the highest energy needs are are where the greatest number of mitochondria are. So when your mitochondria are damaged, that's where you're going to see the greatest impact.  
29:17 So this is for infertility and mitochondria. We know about this for infertility. So for the brain, there's a great book that just came out by Dr. Chris Palmer called Brain Energy. And the entire book is about how all brain disorders, Alzheimer's, post-traumatic stress disorder, anxiety, are really ultimately a mitochondria disease. So you need to protect what you've got.  
29:45 And the spirulina in particular, that superoxidism that stops free radical damage, it also protects and stops your telomeres from shortening. It stops amyloid plaques from forming. So we did our first little clinical trial. It was very small with a group called the Gray Team. They're based in Florida. And their goal is to stop suicide of military veterans, which is 35%. So we did this little small test. We did a brain scan of the participants before the test and then a brain scan after.  
30:17 It was only 30 days. And all we did was give them 30 spirulina tablets a day. That was it because they come in these little pouches. Nothing else changed. When the first brain scan was done, it showed that and these were veterans who had been had brain issues since they were discharged. So some of them, it's been 20 years they've had these issues. So the brain scan showed it was all blue, which shows inflammation and lack of activity, lack of brain activity.  
30:43 30 days later, blue almost completely gone, which means all the inflammation is completely gone, and the brain shows yellow and red, which shows brain activity. And it was both the frontal cortex and the back cortex. Nothing else happened. They also used a bio strap, which measured their sleep and their heart rate variability. And some of them, their heart rate availability increased like oh, I mean, because we've got everybody in our group wearing wearables and looking at things yeah and heart rate variability is a tough one to a needle to move.  
31:15 Yeah. So 50% increase in 30 days with just spirulina. We're going to do it again with a larger study. We're going to do chlorella and some of the chlorella, some with both of them. But so now you're getting nourished. You're getting energy for the day. You're getting all the nutrients you need. You're feeding your mitochondria and you're reducing inflammation. So we scanned the brain, but the decrease in inflammation would occur everywhere throughout the body. It wouldn't just be the brain. It's just that that's what we measured.  
31:44 So for anxiety, sleep disorders, it's all related to the brain. And of course, the brain is connected by the vagus nerve to the gut. So that affects the gut, right? Gut changes. Yeah. What do you think? I'm thinking as you're talking, I'm like, you know what happens as we age is the things that are supposed to happen in our body are not happening anymore. Exactly. Which is why this was like my whole purpose of the menopause reset is I wanted to show people that I changed my lifestyle at 43.  
32:12 I had to because all of my menopausal symptoms just changed my outlook on life, changed the way that I felt in my body. So I changed my lifestyle to map to that. Yeah. But when I hear, what I want people to realize is that when you say the energy is not like caffeine energy, all you're bringing back is you're bringing back a nutrient that's going to help the body do what it's supposed to do and what it did at 20 and it earlier. So you'll start to feel like you used to. Yeah, exactly.  
32:41 And maybe it's so long you can't remember what it was like to have endless energy. 'Cause what happens is when you don't have energy, you're so lethargic and you're so depressed because everything is a struggle. Yeah. It's a struggle to get out there. And the struggle takes away your joy. And when you're missing your joy, then life becomes arduous. It's drudgery. Yeah This gives you back at the cellular level the kind of energy you had naturally when you were younger.  
33:12 And that's when your mitochondria were plentiful when they were working properly. And so they were protecting you and generating all that ATP to help you do whatever you want to do without you even knowing about it. It was just automatic. That's amazing. Yeah. What do we know about what it does? Do we have any research on how either of these products work towards hormones or neurotransmitters? So like you and I talked, one of the things that we're seeing with women is they go through menopause, they lose their sex hormones, and then the neurotransmitters follow.  
33:45 Yeah It's a double whammy to foods. Yeah What do we know about what algae can do for that scenario? Yeah. Well, because mitochondria control everything, including the hormonal balance, and I don't have the science because I haven't dug into that. Yeah, but yeah, I'm just you know a conjecture would be. Can you go back to PubMed? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Excuse me for a minute. Well, come back to me about 40 times later of recent on PubMed. I'm sure there's stuff there.  
34:13 I just haven't been able to find it yet or you know I'm so busy because I got also on a sidetrack, which I do want to talk about about cancer, especially breast cancer and what this does for you. 'Cause yes, it literally stops, kills cancer cells, not the algae, the blue pigment. But I have to believe that it does facilitate that because it just heals everything in your body because it has all the nourishment that it's missing.  
34:38 I feel like it's like, you know when you listen to like a podcast like this and sometimes you put it on two or three speed and that's how I feel like aging is is like everything's just happening so fast. Yeah What I feel like is this is like putting it on half a speed. Yeah. And like it slows that aging process down so that you're not going through your 40s, 50s, 60s and just feeling like every day is like a new body and new mind. Yeah. Because the thing is, and this is what was so great about what I've had to do is you start to learn how your body functions.  
35:07 We know more about our cell phones than we do about our bodies. And we know that we have to plug our cell phone in at night to charge it. You wouldn't even expect your phone to work if you charge it. But we expect our bodies to keep going without a recharge yeah or a reset. And if you just understand what your body needs and you start to give it what it needs, it works beautifully. Yeah And we had all what we needed up until the age of 30.  
35:36 So we thought that that was going to keep going forever. That's right. Stop. Right. Guess what? You're talking about not. Yeah. But so algae replaces all those things that we had naturally up until 30 and so that you can get back to the way you used to feel when you were that age. I just keep, you know, I take for granted how I feel, but then you know we're at a show here at Ketocon and people are telling me about you know this disease they have and that disease and I'm thinking, wow, you know I've been taking for granted how great I feel.  
36:07 Sure. And I forget that you know well, when you say 60% of adults have a chronic disease and if they're in my age group, it's 85% and I don't have any of that and I take no medications and think, wow, I guess this stuff really does work. We as a human race are incredibly mineral deficient. And a large part of that is coming because our soils, the food that our soils are growing in, are incredibly depleted, especially here in America.  
36:36 But throughout the world, we're seeing that soils are not having the same mineral-rich content that they did years ago. And minerals are really strange because they have this subtle yet powerful effect on our brain and our body. So things like depression and anxiety have been linked to mineral deficiencies, which is why I am constantly looking for mineral resources. And ELEMENT has done an incredible job with their products.  
37:06 So if you're not familiar with Element, they are a mineral packet. You can put it in your water as you're going throughout your day. They will keep you in a fasted state. And they have really yummy flavors. So check out Element. If you go to drink Element, so let me spell it for you because it's a little tricky play on words. I actually say elementee or element, depending on how you want to say it.  
37:31 So the website is Drink Element, so D-R-I-N-K-L-M-N-T.com forward slash Mindy Pells. And if you go, we'll also leave the link in the notes below. But if you go and you check out their website, they will give you a discount and let me know what your favorite flavor is. Hey resetters, let's talk about exogenous ketones.  
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39:07 So give it a shot, no pun intended, and let's see how your brain works. Excited for you to try it. Hope it helps. Why don't we know about what it does for like mood disorders? 'Cause, you know, one of the statistics I heard a few months ago that just is burning on my heart is that the most common time of life for a woman to commit suicide is between 45 and 55. Wow, yeah. So that's a neurochemical shift. Yeah. So do we have any research?  
39:37 Well, that's, again, the mitochondria. There's two, remember, when you think of your cell and there's a nucleus in there and these little mitochondria, 2 million per cell. And how many cells do we have? 300,000 trillion. I was just going to say number that you can't even. So when they are damaged, nothing is working. Your synapses aren't working. You've got amyloid plaques probably because there's toxins and chemicals and aluminum up there. You've got just all this disease.  
40:08 The cells can't communicate. Yeah. I tell people, well, so what happens is when your mitochondria get damaged, this electron transport chain, which is like, I say it's like a relay race. And so there's these five stations and each station passes the electrons to the next station, to the next station. So just like in a relay race, someone passes the baton and the goal is to cross the finish line. Well, the goal in your electron transport chain is to get to the ATP, the final station where ATP is produced.  
40:35 But if your stations, if your mitochondria are damaged, those stations, the mitochondria expand and the stations get further and further and further apart. So it's harder and harder for the baton to get passes. So the electrons get dropped, which causes even more free radical damage. I tell people, it's like asking Tom Brady to do a pass in a stadium that's five times the size of a normal stadium. So the damage just gets worse and worse because the mitochondria get expanded, more electrons get dropped, there's more free radical damage, more inflammation.  
41:07 And so it doesn't stop. And so I think that's the time when they do the suicide is because they remember what they used to feel like. Yeah And there is nothing that's been they've been taking to get them back there. And they can't bear the thought of this being their future. Yeah And so yeah, you don't need everybody, especially women. I mean, this will heal your brain because it's giving your brain the nourishment that it had, the protection that it had when you were younger.  
41:39 These nutrients do not exist in food. The phycocyanin has been proven to, like I said, kill cancer cells. It also is an antioxidant, the superoxidism. These are nutrients you need that your body gave you automatically until you were 30 and then it started dropping. So by the time you are 40, you don't have that protection. Your superpowers are gone. Yeah. And that's why I think truly this is a superfood. I call it a super duper food. It's more fun to say it.  
42:08 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Talk a little bit about the protein content because that's the other thing that we've been doing in my Reset Academy. We've been really helping that community see the power of protein, especially if you're gonna break a fast with protein. Yeah. But then we have all these questions about like, well, if I do something like, like we've been experimenting with aminos in a fasted state, yeah and then the question becomes, well, is that gonna pull you out of autophagy? Yeah. Is that gonna stop apoptosis? Yeah. So, but when you said when we opened it up and you said it's got a lot of protein, that was another thing I thought, oh my gosh, we're trying to get more protein into these women.  
42:41 Yeah Well, numerically, it doesn't look like a lot. So like we sell them in these little pouches and there's 30 tablets. And by the way, when we first started, we got it accepted and found by the sports community. Oh, yeah. So we worked with Olympic athletes. We had so many Olympic athletes. I sent my team over to the Olympic village, to the Olympic Games in Russia years ago. And anyway, so they love it because of the nourishment and the energy they get. But that's why there's 30 is 'cause it took 30 before they started to feel some benefits.  
43:09 So in 30 tablets, there's five grams of protein. And you think, well, that's not much. But what I want people to understand is because especially with spirulina, which is in bacteria, so there's nothing to prevent the absorption. You get all those five grams instantly. Now, when you eat animal protein, the protein's all bound up, and it can take up to two to three days for your body to break it down into individual aminos. And by then, maybe you didn't have all the factors or co-factors.  
43:38 And so some reports I've seen say, on average, you absorb only maybe 10% of the protein as aminos. So let's say you had 50 grams of protein, but within two or three days, you've only absorbed five grams as aminos. So having five, but the aminos in the algae, both of them, get into your body instantly. Yeah And so you get all five. So it's like having 50 grams of protein.  
44:07 So it's very efficient nutrition, very efficient protein. Yeah, you're right, we don't know. So there's a classic fasting scenario that I've been talking a lot about, which is go into your workout in a fasted state. Go into this place where you're breaking muscle down. That's what you're supposed to be doing when you work out. You're stimulating, you're double stacking autophagy with fasting and like a training or heavy weights. And then go home and power up on protein.  
44:34 And when you power up on 30 grams of protein, you signal that amino acid receptor site to start building. To start building so that it'll build strong. Right. What I just heard is like, well, even if I go home and I eat a chicken breast. It might not get in there. It might not get in there. Yeah. It would make real sense to me now to think about using this as a way to break your fast so that you move into more of an MTOR muscle building state. Exactly. Faster. Faster, yeah.  
45:03 And then my other thought with this would be, okay, well, we also know that the microbiome changes when you fast are profound, but then when you reintroduce food, you wanna add in foods that feed those microbiomes. Right. So that you really expand the diversity. Yeah. Do we have any research on what algae does to the microbiome? Well, for the microbiome, again, for all gut issues, I would strongly recommend the chlorella, which could also, we generally recommend it as a post-workout as well.  
45:29 This is your pre-workout because of the protein that gets into your body and it gives you that mental acuity and the focus. So whether you're lifting weights, you'll lift longer or lift more and you won't even notice it 'cause you've got the spirulina helping you with all that. And then the chlorella pulls out toxins, including lactic acid, but it's still 60% protein. This one has 64, but this is so you still get all that rich protein, but you also can pull out maybe through if there's been some autophagy, you pull out the dead cells 'cause you don't want them to turn into zombie cells.  
46:03 So this is the host workout for sure. So this has been used for decades for IBS, Crohn's, gut microbiome issues because it has fiber in it. Spirulina does not, but spirulina is, because it's a bacteria, can be absorbed and used at any age, newborns, grandparents, because you know your grandparents, as you get older, you have fewer enzymes for digestion. So lots of people avoid vegetables, they avoid a lot of foods because they just can't digest them.  
46:34 Yeah So this is the best for everybody. Yeah This sometimes can have a detox effect, which can be, Lou's gonna ask about that. Yeah, I mean, I remember, I have a funny story about blue-green algae. This is back in like, I don't know, the 1990s. Yeah. Yeah. And I remember my sister and I got into blue-green algae and we started taking a bunch of it. And all of a sudden, she broke out in like a rash all along the side of her face. At that time, we were like, "Oh my God, that's so cool, like you're detoxy." Yeah. Yeah. So it must be doing something. Yeah.  
47:04 But it was a powder, it was hard to sustain. Yeah. But where my brain went, and what I remember from that was like, oh, algae can detox. Yeah. So do you see people get detox symptoms? Well, just from the chlorella, not from the spirulina. So, you know, that rash that she had could have been from a lot of things. It could have been really low quality algae. I'm wondering about toxins in it. 'Cause the chlorophyll that's in the spirulina and the chlorella is cleansing, but it's not technically a chelator.  
47:34 Yeah. Only the chlorella is a chelator because of the hard cell wall that attaches to the toxins and the higher glutathione. Right. So some people do get detox. To enjoy the wellness benefits, you only need about 10 tablets, but to detox, you need closer to the 20 or 30 at a time. So you know if you want the true benefits, take them all at one time. I joke with people. You know I'm sure your community doesn't drink a lot, but I don't either.  
48:01 But you know especially as you get older, you know it's harder to recover from any kind of alcohol. You will be sober in an hour and a half if you take the full 30 tablets and you will never have a hangover because your body breaks the alcohol down. It doesn't matter whether it's wine, beer, spirits, breaks it down into certain chemicals. It's not formaldehyde, but something like that. And it detects it and pulls it out. So it cleans out your blood in an hour and a half. It cleans out your cells in about an average of seven days.  
48:33 And for organs, it's about you know anywhere from one to four months because it's all about the density of the cell structure. Your blood's very fluid. So where my brain goes with that is, so you gave me some the other night, by the way, at a party where we were actually having alcohol. And the first thing I thought is, I can't wait to see my deep sleep. Is it going to affect my sleep? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. So I took it that night after having, I think I had had a couple of glasses of wine. Now it was dry farm wine. It was clean wine. Yeah. But I went home, woke up the, took it.  
49:04 I think I took it right there with you. Yeah. Two and a half hours deep sleep, which is really good. Oh, excellent. I mean, you want it for two hours. I'm always trying to get to three. Yeah. But normally to do. Yeah, I can ask like last night I did, okay, so this is a good example. We're at a conference. Yeah. And had a glass of wine last night, an hour and 15 minutes. And I didn't take it last night. All right, so it doubled your deep sleep. We've had people tell us that they have better dreams.  
49:34 You just wake up refreshed. It's like giving your body a shower from the inside. This stuff works. Yeah. We work with biological dentists who use it to pull out mercury. They take it, they take it, they give it to their patients as well, because when you're pulling out fillings at mercury, there's fumes. And so this works. When there was the Fukushima disaster eight years ago, the entire global supply of chlorella was bought up by all the Japanese within 24 hours. And it's a plant, remember? Right.  
50:03 So there was no chlorella available for literally six weeks because it pulls out radiation. The United Nations used it after the Chernobyl incident back in the '80s. They like plant it or how do they? We grow it in farms. It's hydroponically. Lots of vegetables are grown hydroponically, lettuce, I think tomatoes. So it's grown in fresh water. Ours is triple filtered. We grow ours in Taiwan, so it's not Japan. Yeah, I was going to ask you about your story.  
50:33 Yeah, and Taiwan is known as the gold standard for algae. I don't know whether it's because it's such a big industry there. Right. It's a bit like wine. It's affected by the angle of the sun, whether the potency of it. 'Cause again, 99.9% of algae is grown in Asia. It's virtually there's a small amount in Hawaii, but it's very mild. And I think, again, it's because of the angle of the sun. I want to grow the company so to be such a large company that we can grow it.  
51:04 It can grow in America. I've drawn a line from Taiwan across America, and it's Florida. So it's the middle, middle of Florida, but it will take a lot of money. But my plan is to grow it here and then have an education center so people can see it. But it is grown in fresh. Ours is triple filtered spring mountain water. And then it takes about a month to grow. And then you harvest it, pull it up sort of like, you know, looks like weeds at that point.  
51:30 And then we air dry it without high heat, which is very, very important because all the other companies, algae companies use high heat to dry it 'cause they have to get marginalized that we think. Well, it kills all the enzymes, it kills the pasteurization. Exactly. So that's why, you know, people use ours, they go, oh, it's a little expensive. I'm gonna go get the cheaper version. They go to Walmart or something. And they always come back because you have to use like 10 times the amount to get the same efficacy and you still never achieve the efficacy. I can promise you, it would not help your sleep. Yeah.  
52:00 Well, I just want to make a point. If you're buying supplements at Walmart, stop. Yeah, exactly. I'm not against Walmart. I just know that those supplements in general are going to be lower quality. Yeah. So it makes sense. So taking the chlorella before bed, by the way, does help you sleep because it has the highest tryptophan in the world. It's five times more tryptophan than turkey. And tryptophan is the precursor, by the way, to both melatonin, which helps you sleep and serotonin, which is your happy space, right?  
52:30 Yes. Your happy transmitter. So this would help again with the brain issue. We want to reduce the inflammation so the mitochondria can be functioning better and that you get most of that from the spirulina. Yeah But the chlorella will pull out the heavy metals that could be there because your brain has its own, it's called a lymphatic system. Think of like street washers. You know, they go out there when you're sleeping and they're washing all the streets. So while you're getting your beauty rest, the chlorella is in your brain.  
52:58 If you're getting into deep sleep, it help you get to deep sleep. So it literally opens up the streets. Yeah So the street washers can get in there, get rid of the amyloid plaque, get rid of the aluminum and pull it out 'cause it chelates it. And you do nothing. You're just there enjoying sleep, whatever. Yeah. And it also stimulates peristalsis, which is a bowel movement because you also want to get rid of the junk in your trunk so that you know hanging around because a lot of colon cancer is because of people not having good bowel movements.  
53:27 You want to see as much irregularity as possible. And then it's got the K2 in it. And don't forget, you know, your skin also is nourished by blood. And what you put in your body affects your skin more than what you put on it. Yes, you need some sun SPF, but all the topicals that they sell won't do as much for you as algae will because you get free radical damage to your skin, which causes damage to your lass and your elastic is what holds your skin up.  
53:58 It's like the structure and it's damaged by free radicals and also by excess calcium. And of course, this protects your elastin and it builds collagen. In fact, it has more collagen than collagen powder. I did an analysis on an amino basis, all the aminos in collagen powder versus algae. And on a couple of them, we have up to 400% more of that particular amino than collagen powder does. And by the way, collagen powder is not a complete protein.  
54:26 It's missing tryptophan. And to absorb collagen, there are three nutrients. I think it's zinc A and another vitamin, and they have to add it to the collagen powder, and it's already automatically in the algae. It's so interesting to see that because again, collagen is another one I've really thought a lot about as a 53-year-old woman. And one of the things that I know is that estrogen helps you make collagen. And so when you lose estrogen, now you're not making as much collagen, which is why we wrinkle more.  
54:54 Yeah But what I actually saw in my clinic all the time was that women in their late 40s, they had injuries that just wouldn't go away, musculoskeletal injuries that just stuck around. Yeah And that didn't happen in their late 30s. I attributed it to the collagen loops. Yeah But then I've tried every collagen powder on the planet. There's a few that I really love, but I can't say that when I take collagen, I like look in the mirror and I'm like, wow, I've reversed my 18. Yeah. Like it just doesn't, that's not that.  
55:25 Yeah. But is it maybe because if I don't have the cofactors, I'm not absorbing or breaking that down. Exactly. Exactly. And you know let's face it, collagen is also not a sustainable crop. You know It's made from melted down bones and skins. Oh, and that is not great for the vegan. And gets how they melt it down with chemicals. They don't tell you that. So it's not as healthy as it's made out to be. And yet algae has more collagen than collagen powder. Yeah And it has all those cofactors in there.  
55:54 Well, it has all the vitamins that need the collagen in your body needs to put the collagen to work. But one thing you mentioned, I do want to tell people is when you're younger, your skin cell turnover is like 26 days. But as you get older, it's 36 days than 46 days. So it will take longer for you to, as you get older, to see a noticeable change in your skin because the turnover is just slower. So I just want to sort of put that.  
56:23 Yes, don't take a moment and look at your marriage. How do I look now? Yeah, yeah. But I say to people, like I'm literally like Benjamin Button. I look younger now. You look amazing. Than I did 10 years ago. And the only thing I have done differently is the algae. How many years you've been taking the algae? 13 years. And I do take a fair amount of it. Yeah, how much? And honestly, I don't think somebody once said, well, I can't take that much, but I do. Stars was possible. Well, at least 100.  
56:53 Yeah, a day. A day. Yeah. And by the way, our NHL players, they put 75, they take 75 spirulina before a game to give them the energy on the ice because they need that focus and hockey is a very fast game. And they take 75 chlorella after the game to pull up the lactic acid. And also because we know hockey players are big drinkers, so I'm sure it's at the game party as well. But my skin is so much better than it was never bad, but to think that I could be, it's kind of weird because people, you know, even occasionally I get hit on by a young guy.  
57:30 I'm thinking, hey, I can be your mother. But once I hear you. Cougar, and that's what I just heard. Amazing. Okay. All the single ladies out there. That's right. Cougars unite. It's a cougar. It's a cougar. It's a cougar food. It's a cougar food. But you know cougars who have grandchildren, it's great for kids too. You know I give them because you know there's so much garbage out there.  
57:56 And also I will mention that you know at families, there's a lot of stress around eating healthy and kids just don't like vegetables. So we've had mothers email us and say, "Look, you've brought peace back to our family 'cause I don't have to fight with my kids or my husband to eat their vegetables anymore." And I throw them out all the time. So the kids love to eat them because it turns their tongue green. They think it's really funny. Yeah. So that's half a tablet. So if they're four, give them two a day. If they're six, give them three a day. And pets, your pets will go crazy over this stuff.  
58:26 And animals are smart. And I have a funny story. Somebody told me they took their energy bits with them on a hike. They were in a court where I can't remember where they were. But anyways, but a bear broke into their campground in the middle of the night. So they rushed off and they came back about two hours later. The tents all torn up. The bags that they had of the supplements had been ripped open, but all the supplements were there. The bag of the energy bed spirulina tablets ripped open and licked clean.  
58:55 Not a garage. So bears like it. So all animals, cats, dogs, bears, you know they know you got everything when they have. Okay, talk about breast cancer, 'cause you've brought it up a couple of times. And just I'll share with you, I don't know if you know this about me, that one of the ways, one of the reasons I got so deep down the rabbit hole of nutrition and detox and fasting was because of a patient of mine who at 40 was given a breast cancer diagnosis and was given three months to live. And we worked together.  
59:23 I met her at that three-month mark and we worked together and she ended up turning her life into adding about 10 more years under life. So in that decade, I researched so much on cancer and what could we do to prevent cancer, overturn cancer? At that time, I didn't know about allergy. Yeah I didn't even know about fasting at that time. So 99% of the world outside here. Yeah So number one, I got into this whole journey because my younger sister had breast cancer.  
59:52 She lives in Canada and her oncologist told her to change her diet to an alkaline diet 'cause it would help with her healing process. They didn't tell her what it was or what it would do. So I'm close to my sister. I have two sisters. She's my baby sister. So I said, I have no idea. I have an MBA. I was doing international business. Nothing to do with nutrition. And I said, but I will find out because I'm a good researcher. I can find out. Yeah. So anybody who ever wants to date me, like don't mess with me. I can find out if you're telling me the truth or not. I can research.  
01:00:22 Yeah, yeah. Load of energy. Yeah, exactly. Look out. So I found out that she wanted her to have an alkaline diet because cancer cannot exist in an alkaline environment. And so when you have acidic food, your body is constantly trying to reject, especially your blood needs to be at 7.34, which is alkaline, and your cells need to be 7.1, which is just slightly over alkaline. The alkaline acidic range goes from 0 to 14.  
01:00:49 And Otto Warberg is a German scientist who won a Nobel Prize in, I think, 1931 for discovering cancer cannot exist in an acidic environment. So that was why she wanted her to have an alphaline diet because it would help her body maintain that level of alkalinity so that she could heal. Yeah, you need to I think it was cancer can't exist in an alkaline environment inside the cell. Exactly.  
01:01:15 And actually his work is how I got into fasting because the same thing is that I started to look at what was changing within that cell that made sure it didn't turn into a cancer cell. And alkalinity was one, ketones was one. So yeah. So that's what got me into it. So I researched her foods. She changed her diet. She did go through chemo. But in the process, I learned about this importance of alkalinity, which was mostly in plants because of the phytonutrients and the chlorophyll, which is the most alkaline nutrient in the world.  
01:01:44 And eventually, so then I went back to school studying nutrition and started teaching. I put a curriculum together to get people to eat more vegetables. And everyone said, I hate vegetables. They're too expensive. No, they go bad or they're too late. Struggle with vegetables. It gives me gas. They go bad. So I thought, okay, I gotta find something that gives them the nutrients of vegetables without any of the work or any of the downside. And that's how I found algae. So number one, how does it affect and prevent or help correct cancer, breast cancer in particular.  
01:02:15 It's the most alkaline food in the world, number one. Hands down, boom. So that's number one. Number two, because especially with spirulina, there is the blue pigment that's in here. It's called phycocyan, and it's hard to spell. It's PHY, COY, CIN. It has been proven to kill cancer cells. And this is what the chemotherapy companies even use. And so, but you don't want to, we all have cancer cells in our, let me just preface this.  
01:02:46 We all have cancer cells in our body at all times. But if you have a strong immune system and if you have a healthy mitochondria, they can keep those cancer cells from growing and becoming a more challenging health condition. But right now, most people don't have a strong immune system, and certainly after the age of 40, your mitochondria are not healthy. Yeah. So that's one of the reasons why I think at 40, these cancer diagnoses just go through the roof because of those two issues.  
01:03:18 So the blue phygocyanin and what it does, it triggers this thing called in that electron transport chain, there's this little shuttle bus molecule called cytochrome C, and it triggers that cytochrome C, and that kills the cancer cells. It kills both cancer cells and senescent cells and leaves all of the healthy cells alone. I tell people, you know, we all like to poke that bubble wrap. Right. And you know, when you poke one of those bubbles in the bubble wrap, the rest of the bubble wrap is fine.  
01:03:48 The only one that got damaged was the one you poked. That's basically the process of this phycocyanin. It can detect the cancer cells, pop it, or the cells, pop it. And meanwhile, all the other healthy cells are fine. And in fact, on healthy cells, that cytochrome C, which is equivalent of a shuttle bus, like if you're at the airport, you can't get to your flight if you don't take that shuttle bus to the terminal. That cytochrome C is the shuttle bus that gets your electrons to the final station in generating ATP.  
01:04:19 So in healthy cells, it generates more energy. Yeah, that's good. Unhealthy cells, it kills them. I see that's pretty sweet. That's pretty sweet. So here's what I learned in this decade of helping this woman with cancer and how to change her lifestyle, is that there are two major issues in cancer. One is you've got to find a way to kill the cell that has already gone rogue and speak from a cancer site. And you have to make sure you're not creating new ones. Exactly. Because it's like you had an environment inside your body that all of a sudden led to this cancer cell's creation.  
01:04:54 So when we come in with chemo and radiation, we're going after that cancer cell. You're killing everything else. Yeah, you're killing everything else. And your biome. We haven't like addressed, well, how do we make sure we don't get one? You're looking at things like breast cancer. This is why women get, you know, they get all of a sudden a clean diagnosis and then five, 10 years later, they're back with a new diagnosis. Yeah. So what I'm hearing you say is that not only do the chemical components or the natural components of algae kill an actual existing cancer cell, but it fires up the ATP and the glutathione.  
01:05:25 On the healthy ones. On the healthy ones so you don't turn, so it's going from Exactly. And it maintains that alkaline environment so that that also keeps the cancer cells out. 'Cause the reason why the cancer cells spread so quickly is you want something called cell program death. The way I explain it to people is like, our cells can multiply 50 times. And after that, they kind of like, they go, well, I'm done, you know, nothing left here, but they don't go away.  
01:05:54 They're like someone who just who's had a great job and they're in retirement, but they keep showing up and, you know, causing havoc. It's like, you're retired, go away. But they don't. And what they do is they're inflammatory. They still release these chemicals that damage all the other healthy cells. And so when you have programmed cell death, which apoptosis does or autophagy does, it's the cell goes, oops, I'm not feeling so well.  
01:06:24 I think I've done my thing. Time to leave. But now just it's like maybe you sort of give away all the jewels and you take the car. You take my mitochondria. You take the jewels with my nice nucleus. And basically, the healthy cell subdivides itself into other healthy cells, and that's the process of apoptosis. No inflammation. It's a controlled goodbye. Here's all the goodies.  
01:06:53 It's like to your kids, you go on sale. It's a cellular guarantee. Yeah, or it's just your family. It's the next generation taking over and good luck. Interesting. But if it's an unhealthy cell, it doesn't know to do that. And it goes through a process called necrosis, where it just goes, it spits out everything. It's like, you know, it's like throwing up, frankly. And so what it does is it throws up all of the toxicity that's been in the cell and which goes to all the other cells. Yeah. So that's what happens in cancer cells.  
01:07:24 They don't know they're sick and so they just spill out all of their toxicity to the neighboring cells. Which brings me to the other next critical reason why you need to take this every day, even if you don't have symptoms of cancer, because believe me, cancer cells exist in all of us. This blue phycocyanin has been shown to stop, it's called anti-angiogenesis. Angiogenesis is when cancer cells and tumors basically hijack your blood vessels to feed them.  
01:07:54 And so that's what helps them grow. This stuff stops it. It's called anti, and there's a great organization called the Angiogenesis Association. They're actually based in Cambridge, Massachusetts, is angiogen.org. And they invited us to a conference they had about 10 years ago because they called us and said, do you know your spirulina stops cancerism? No, I didn't know. And so they sent me the papers, scientific papers. So it's all documented. So it stops the growth of blood vessels, tumors, it stops the FICO sign, and I have to be really careful so the FDA doesn't shut me down.  
01:08:26 I'm not saying that the algae does this. I just want to be careful about this. It's the pigment that's found in algae that does it. And this is used by the pharmaceutical industry now. And you can Google phygos, PHY, COCOINON, and cancer treatments. So it's so critical because you know breast cancer is so prevalent. So prevalent. And it's painful.  
01:08:56 It's a painful diagnosis. It's a painful recovery. It's expensive. It's expensive. It comes back. Yeah, I wipe you out. Hundreds of thousands of dollars. I think her name was Lanny, the patient I worked with, and I'm going to say in about 10 years, she may have spent over a million dollars to extend her life 10 years, yeah which is crazy. Yeah And so this will help prevent that naturally. Yeah. But you need to take this is not, I think I'll take everyone's while. This is a daily food. Yeah.  
01:09:23 This will replace many of your supplements, some of your, probably all of your vegetables, some of your protein. You can travel with it. We have an expiry. It's usually three years, but honestly, it never goes bad, never goes bad. You could keep it in your cupboard. It requires no work. Just swallow these little tablets. I mean, people. Yeah, it's so cool. This is a gift to us from Mother Nature. Yeah, it's just never been explained to anyone.  
01:09:51 The science is there and it's just And I actually, where my brain puts this is actually in the food category, not necessarily supplement category. And everything we're talking about, the way I'm looking at this is you're gonna add this into a healthy lifestyle. It's not going to, the way I look at this is like, it's not like you can eat horrible, lack of sleep, drink, you know, every night, and then take a bunch of energy bits, and then all of a sudden, you know, your life is gonna be perfect.  
01:10:24 If you pair this with a healthy lifestyle, oh that's how you're gonna look like the Catholics. Yeah, exactly, exactly. But even if you, you know, 'cause people are so, you know, it's slow to make changes. So I tell people that, you know, if you have a, you know, your energy or you have issues that are going on and you're not prepared to make big shifts, this is like a boat with a lot of holes in it. This will fill some of your holes. Yeah. Just to keep you afloat until you kind of get the confidence to maybe start making changes.  
01:10:54 So it's the effortless, easiest, proven, um, nourishing way to get yourself on a better path. If somebody was to just try this for like 30, 60, 90 days, what do we think? And I know you guys are giving my audience 20% off. Yes, yes. Great discount code. Yeah. Do you want me to share? Yeah, why don't you share it? So Peltz PEO is the discount code. Come to energybits.com and you'll see a discount box, put in Peltz, and you'll get 20% off everything anytime, all the time.  
01:11:25 Perfect. Yeah. 'Cause we really want people to be able to enjoy. And we sell them in these large banks. This is probably the best value, but using that quote from NASA, this has the equivalent of 500 nutrition of 551 pounds of vegetables. And if you took 10 a day, it would last you three months. So it's very efficient nutrition. And then we also have these canisters that have these little cute I like cut out of the back. My countertop. I really like that. They come with a bag inside them.  
01:11:54 So you just pour and then you just shake them out into your hands so there's no dust. No, they look really nice. Yeah. And then when you run out, you just buy another bag because they're reusable. And then the cancer has come with. How long would somebody need to take it? So I'm thinking for myself, you know, and just full transparency, I've been taking it sort of haphazardly. Yeah. But now after talking to you, I'm thinking, okay, I'm gonna do 30 in the morning, 30 in the evening. That would be the best. And do that for 90 days and just look at HRV, look at deep sleep.  
01:12:26 Look at my skin. Do bone density. Honestly, all your numbers. Okay, my last question for you, and this is something I ask everybody. Each year I theme my podcast. This year I themed it on self-love and what our own personal superpower is because I feel like we don't give enough self-love to ourselves. I know. And I also feel like we don't brag about our superpowers, which we should. So do you have a self-love practice, a daily self-love practice, and what is your superpower that you bring to the world?  
01:12:56 Yeah. Well, I always have a routine in the morning, you know, because I'm trying to be healthy with, you know, start water with, have water with squeezed lemon, and then I have Yerba mate, which is very great tea. And then I have my algae. But I do meditation and stretching in the morning. I love yoga. Now, I live in Boston, so I can't always do it, but I like to do a walk in the morning. Just getting out in nature is beautiful. It makes me feel loved because I love Mother Nature.  
01:13:26 And if you're ever in doubt about what to do, just study Mother Nature. By the way, things don't happen overnight with Mother Nature. And so you have to bring that with you. So well said. I love that. And I think for my superpower, they're coordinated. I love making things beautiful. My previous career was an interior publisher of an interior design magazine. And before that, I was in international business, which you know wasn't a good fit for me. So it doesn't matter whether it's interior design, fashion design, I design all the products.  
01:13:57 The outside packaging is gorgeous. Well, I had to make the packaging is beautiful because I can't help anyone if I can't get the algae into their body. So I wanted them to feel comfortable and informed. And related to that is I can take very complex things and trim them down to concepts that are easy to understand, which is related to making things beautiful because again, Mother Nature provides us with everything and flowers are everywhere. Harmony is everywhere. Energy is everywhere.  
01:14:25 And it's all about balance and symmetry. And I love to give that to people. I sort of hit it for a while because you know if you try to pursue too much beauty, the business world doesn't take you seriously. Oh, that's so screwed. I'm just going to do my thing. I love that. But I love making an environment beautiful for people because it gives you, it stabilizes you. It makes you feel calm. Gives you oxytocin. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.  
01:14:56 Helping people feel grounded and calm makes me feel I've done a good job. And I do it through beauty, nutrition, and explanation. Amazing. Oh my gosh. Well, this has been really enjoyable. And I have to tell you, again, I've been watching this product, trying to understand how to use it. Yeah My brain understands algae could be helpful. I love this idea that we are connected to the earth yeah and that healing's going to come from the earth.  
01:15:25 That's where we're going to see the next level of healthcare come. Yeah So I cannot wait for this to get to my audience. And just remind us again, and we write a blog. There's lots of information there. We're also on Instagram, Energy Bits, so there's always fun stuff there and we're at lots of shows and the discount code is pelts yeah to get 20% off. Doesn't matter what you buy.  
01:15:53 If you buy four of something, you get free shipping. But honestly, I tell people, don't think about why you wouldn't take algae. Think about why you wouldn't. And I want to assure people, algae isn't new, it's just new to you. So I just welcome people to give it a try because we need something. Yeah, yeah. We do need something going the way we are. Simple. Simple what I like about this. It's so silly. Nourishing. And remember, your mitochondria are counting on you.  
01:16:25 I love that. I love that. Thank you, Catherine. This was amazing. Thanks a lot. Appreciate you. Me too. Thank you so much for joining me in today's episode. I love bringing thoughtful discussions about all things health to you. If you enjoyed it, we'd love to know about it. So please leave us a review, share it with your friends, and let me know what your biggest takeaway is.
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